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Mar 4, 2012 at 3:25 PM #1

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Scorpion LED Review

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This is interesting, a pair of these supposedly outperforms the 50 inch rigid bar. They would be a lot easier to mount too.
Mar 4, 2012 at 3:27 PM #2

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Not cheap, but still way cheaper than the light bar too.
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Kartek Off Road - Scorpion-LED Headlights

Scorpion-LED 5" 109w High Power Single LED

Comparable to a 30" LED Light Bar
Scorpion-LED's high powered single LED produces an incredible amount of light from a compact 5" diameter housing. The 109 watt version produces 11,772 lumens which is more than most 30" LED light bars currently on the market. It produces this light through a single LED and a convex glass lens that has a 99% optical efficiency. The lens produces a wide beam pattern in an uniformed pattern with no dim or bright patches.

The light uses an external converter that requires remote mounting.

Dimensions: 5" diameter
Length: 4"
Mounting Depth: 1.5"
Weight: 3.5lbs
Amperage Draw: 7.9 @ 13.7v
Input Voltage: 12-15v DC
Watts: 109w
Lumens: 11,772
Circuit: voltage/current regulation
Temp Control: Internal temp sensor reduces current
Housing: CNC Machined Aluminum
Water proof: Totally Submersible
Number of LED's: 1/109 Watt LED
Housing Color: Anodized Black
Beam Pattern: Wide beam
Color: 5.6K Day light
Warranty: 2 years
Designed, Manufactured and Assembled in the USA

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i knew it wouldn't be long before a company outdid rigid
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thats just rediculous...i want some.
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Here's the results from Old Cruiser, I'll link the pics in the next post
Offroad lights- Scorpion 109Watt LED's!! - Page 8 - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum

SO HERE IS THE RESULTS!!! Thanks again Wilmer!!

So here’s my thoughts.

The lights in order of price based on typical web site prices are in this order from lowest to highest with estimated costs plus the extras to wire them up (relays, wire, fuses, switch, etc). Price per pair.

Pro Comp- est- $50
4" HID's- est $240
Rigid Dually D'2- est $330
Lightforce 240's (with diffuser lens)- est $490
Scorpion-LED's- est $1050

Since not everyone compares their lights output in the same measurement (lumens, candlepower, watts, etc) it’s hard to define what order they are placed in. I looked at each light for what they did and how effective they would be as standalone lights or would they need more to be as effective as the next higher priced light.

I figure the Pro Comps while bright for a spot and cheap, would need quite a few to raise you to the next bar. How many- at least 4-6 and then you need the space.

For the HID's, these were the surprise. They were extremely bright and put out a lot of light. Down side was they took a while to "warm up" which if your needing to turn on and off your lights due to on coming traffic on the trails, these may not be as effective. The beam spread was very narrow at the end but 4 of these placed up high with 2 euro and 2 flood would be a great lighting option for those on a budget and wanted to have a dual purpose rock crawling/ desert bombing system. Only issue is quality abd longevity. HID's can be prone to failure and these while innovative with the ballasts stored in the light itself, make them very bulky to mount and with questionable manufacturing, even more of a chance. You might win, you might lose. They may last for a few years or a few weeks. No telling.

For the D2's. While bright for such a compact light, they lacked the intensity out any further than 50 yards. Even the center diffused to a point they looked weak compared to the HID's. They di offer a wide beam spread and would be great in trail riding and crawling but wouldn’t be sufficient for fast stuff at night unless you added maybe 6 together. The beam pattern would be fine with more compounding the center and the wash gaining intensity as well. So great in that they are small, but you would need a few of them to get to the HID level with 4. Not knocking the Rigid’s. Very well made and durable!! In this design though, more would be needed to match the other brighter lights.

The Lightforces... These are spot lights on steroids! They are diffused by the lens cover and would otherwise shoot a spot beam well over 500 yards! Even with the lens covers they were by in far the furthest throwing light of the bunch with ample flood to light what’s around you. Main issue is the amperage draw (200 watts) and then there’s the size (9.5"). These lights require enough space to mount and while made to mount everywhere, would be better suited to the bumper. On the roof they would be a considerable wind drag. Otherwise these held their own but again limited in placement.

That leaves us with the Scorpions. These lights put out so much more luminosity than any other light, there isn’t even a comparison - at least with what I had. While difficult to compare a flood to a spot and euro, the difference was so severe, that the camera had trouble focusing with all the light coming in. The lights were level with the front hood, so if you mounted them at or below the bumper, you would lose 1/3 of the light to the ground directly in front of you. But that means the other 2/3's is going everywhere else (that’s still almost 17,000 lumens flooding the trees and hills in front of you). At 23,500 lumens for 2 5" lights, these are easy to mount just about anywhere and I assure you, no one will want to ride in front of you unless they are wearing a welding helmet. So with a nice small package that doesn’t draw attention like the larger LED light bars yet throws out more lumens is a great stealth way to have just 2 lights that do it all. For those of you who like spot lights? Scorpion will be introducing their spots in a few months that will be up for consideration. Other cool things to know- these are fully submersible- yup- U-Boat style! And they are made from billet. So what are the downsides... Well for some, the price is too high. I say compare these to any other LED light system for the same price (remember- these are 2 small, 5" lights)- no roof rack required. As for the other issue- they do require a "gentle" breeze (5 mph) to maintain optimum efficiency. They can run up to 40 minutes with no air movement but after that they begin to lower their output to protect the light. So not suitable for inside closed bumpers. For that they produce a 5” light with a 50 LED array putting out roughly half the amount these due. Same construction and these can be mounted anywhere including a closed bumper.

Its like anything else out there. You can get what works and then you can spend a little more and get something a little better that will function to a higher standard. I'm not saying that the more you spend, the better the quality (we have all seen the high cost of some items end up being crap). I'm stating, based on materials used, quality of craftsmanship, ease of use and flexibility (and for some the "Made in USA means a heck of lot still too), the Scorpions are an incredible value with a truly state of the art design and power output in a small package.

I can’t convince all of you they are the best but the photos are what they are. In the end, some of you are happy to wheel your FJ's with a basic stock set up and maybe a leveling kit where as others are more demanding and want their rigs to perform to a higher level. You can pick any of the lights listed and make it down the trail. It just depends on what’s important to you and what you intend on doing with them.

For me? Heck I now own all these lights... So I’ll be seeing you…All of you

Hope this was helpful and shed some light (pun intended) on some alternative brands of lighting.

Thanks for reading

-OC
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Each photo will have the light used listed directly above the photo. So here you go!!

Stock headlights

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

Stock headlights- Hi Beam

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

55 Watt Pro Comp Spots

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

Lightforce 240's (100 watt spot- with yellow difuser lens covers)

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

Rigid Dually D2's- Euro beam

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

4" 35 watt HID's- Euro beam

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

109 Watt Scorpion-LED's- Flood beam

Scorpion by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

2nd Location

Balloons (3) are placed at about 25 yards, 50 yards and 75 yards. The football balloon is to the right (25 yards). The 1st smiley face balloon to the left is at 50 yards and the 2nd smiley balloon in the center is at around 75 yards. Most likely they were all further out since my pace is longer than a yard but hey its better than nothing

Same order as before....

Stock head lights- Lo beam

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

Stock headlights- Hi beam

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

Pro Comps- 55watt spot

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

Lightforce 240's- 100watt- spot w/ yellow diffuser

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

Rigid Dually D2's- Euro Beam

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

4" HID's- 35watt Euro beam

Untitled by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

5" Scorpion-LED's -109watt- Flood beam

Scorpion by wilmer.gaviria, on Flickr

And as promised...

Here’s what it looked like throwing everything including the kitchen sink down range- over 40,000 lumens

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you didn't have to quote the whole website no ones gonna read that
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I love this pic. It shows what my dinner plates light up better than any pics I've taken so far.

I'm still interested in light bars...but man alive, those two 5" lights are amazing!
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RedRocket04 said: ↑

you didn't have to quote the whole website no ones gonna read that
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I did... and I bet J.Wal and Jarrett are also
That one thread has over 34 pages also....I just copied the one post with pics and a review.

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