SC vs Raptor - what would you do?

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  1. tater

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    first this, nice truck.
    second keep it if the your not going to be able to use the raptor it is full potential even though its a sweet truck. .
    third, put a turbo on it. www.ststurbo.com is a company that has a kit for you truck and there is a few vids on youtube with a truck that has one.
     
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    STS is crap... undersized Turbo's for the engine, remote mounting so you have to deal w/ lag (hence they undersize the turbo so you don't notice the lag)... but thats just my opinion... listen to the videos of STS on YouTube, and you'll notice the turbo spools immediately and is practically maxed out right after that.
     
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    you got a bulldog behind that 5.0....i dont think so!:flipthebird::jester:
     
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    well i didnt know that much about them. i just know that they made a kit for his truck.
     
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    yea, they were one of the first things I looked into... but then when me and my buddy watched the YouTube, he said no bueno and thats when I started to research and figure out what size turbo would best fit my displacement. Didnt mean to knock you're idea, its a good one. Just the kit itself sucks IMHO. It would give him what he is after, and wouldnt have to think, but it would be limiting in the long run, where as if you build it up yourself, you'll have more turbo than engine, and thats always good (to a point).
     
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    yeah i know you want more turbo. we custom built one for a v6 mustang and it was f'ing sweet. i just knew they make kits and didnt now the turbo sizes. but if thats the case i would custom build one also.
     
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    i dont know what size is in the kit either, but if you watch the youtube video, you'll notice it spools instantly and is maxed out right after that. building that custom TC for the v6 pony, you should notice its so not right haha. Whats that pony run? mid 12's in 1/4?
     
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    Vano - I'll happily take advantage of your research if you don't mind. A few questions:

    1) Do you know if altitude plays a major role with the TC sizing? I live at 8500' so we're a little thin on O2. I actually have to run premium fuel to keep from pinging with the Hypertech 87 octane performance tune and running the premium tune advances the timing too far to be useable. I'll need some sizing/tuning expertise as my normal driving takes me from my house at 8500' down to Boulder at 5300'.

    2) Where to do you place the turbo unit(s)? I have a Magnaflow DI/DO kit with side exit in front of the tire. I only have a couple feet of pipe between the cats and the muffler.
     
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    im happy to dump my knowledge onto someone else, provided it works i get the accolades. if it doesnt, it was all your idea. :jester:

    Altitude only plays a part in how much HP you can produce and has no effect on turbo sizing. there is a bit more to it for altitude but I would have to consult my buddy as to exactly how much play that change will have on your tune. The term "BARS" is what is effected, but again, i'll consult w/ my buddy who is a genius.

    I decided to place my turbo where my air box is located, behind driver headlamp. Not gonna need that airbox anyway so might as well use the space that it once took up. The cats will be cut out. You'll 180^ back into the engine bay right off your headers (shortest run to turbo = fastest spool). I wouldnt run anything smaller than 2.5". 3" is ideal, but can be hard to get it inbetween the frame rails and engine. Also, you'll need a few flex joints so when you hit it and the engine rocks, the turbo piping doesnt get snapped.
     
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    well the only time we took it to the track was about a month after we finish the car up and on the second pass with the boost turned up (first on at 4.5 pounds) to 6 pounds on a stock bottom end with 100k ran low 13 and smoked a piston at 3/4 track and he was leading the race until that and the other car ran a 12.9
     

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